The January meeting of the 754 group was hosted by Jim Thomas in the Boise Room in building 46U at HP in Cupertino on Wednesday 1/18 from 1:00 to 5:00. Here is the attendence list. 754 Name Member Affiliation Email ---- ------ ----------- ----- Steven Carlough XX IBM (phone) carlough@ieee.org Marius Cornea XX Intel (phone) marius.cornea@intel.com Mike Cowlishaw XX IBM mfc@uk.ibm.com Bob Davis XX Summit bob@scsi.com Dick Delp XX Self ddelp@pacbell.net Mark Erle XX IBM (phone) merle@us.ibm.com J.P. Fasano X. IBM jpfasano@us.ibm.com Ivan Godard XX OOTBC ivan@ootbcomp.com Roger Golliver XX Intel roger.a.golliver@intel.com Michel Hack XX IBM (phone) hack@watson.ibm.com John Harrison XX Intel johnh@ichips.intel.com Graydon Hoare no Mozilla graydon@mozilla.com David Hough XX Sun david.hough@sun.com William Kahan XX U.C.Berkeley wkahan@berkeley.edu Jeff Kidder XX Intel (phone) jeff.kidder@intel.com Alex Liu XX Sun alex.liu@sun.com Nobuyoshi Mori XX SAP.COM (phone) nobuyoshi.mori@sap.com Eric PostpischilX. Apple edp@apple.com Stuart Oberman XX Nvidia stuart@nvidia.com Jon Okada XX HP jon.okada@hp.com Ian Ollmann X. Apple iano@apple.com Eric Schwarz XX IBM (phone) eschwarz@us.ibm.com Jim Shearer X. IBM jbs@watson.ibm.com Ron Smith X. IBM rmsmith1@us.ibm.com Peter Tang XX Intel peter.tang@intel.com Pamela Taylor X. Self PJT@attglobal.com Leonard Tsai X. HP leonard.tsai@hp.com Jim Thomas XX HP jim.thomas2@hp.com Fred Zemke X. Oracle fred.zemke@oracle.com Dan Zuras XX Group70 r754@nonabelian.com ----- John Crawford .X Intel john.h.crawford@intel.com Alex Fit-Florea .. AMD ala.fit-florea@amd.com Peter Markstein .X HP peter.markstein@hp.com Ilya Sharapov .. Sun ilya.sharapov@sun.com Michael Siu .. Nvidia msiu@nvidia.com Shall we move the substantive meetings to Wednesday & have the draft reviews (if needed) on Thursday? This would aid in a scheduling conflict that has come up for Prof Kahan this year & others have mentioned it might make it easier for those who fly into these meetings to schedule their return flights. Yes. Let us determine dates & venues for our meetings for the rest of the year. (After the meeting, Eric Postpischil of Apple arranged to host August & November.) Wednesday 2/15 full meeting, David Hough at Sun in Menlo Park Thursday 2/16 draft review Wednesday 3/15 full meeting, Joe Darcy at Sun in Santa Clara Thursday 3/16 draft review Wednesday 4/19 full meeting, Jeff Kidder at Intel in Santa Thursday 4/20 draft review Wednesday 5/17 full meeting, Roger Golliver at Intel in Santa Thursday 5/18 draft review Wednesday 6/21 full meeting, Jim Thomas at HP in Cupertino Thursday 6/22 draft review Wednesday 7/19 full meeting, David Hough at Sun in Menlo Park Thursday 7/20 draft review Wednesday 8/16 full meeting, Eric Postpischil at Apple in Ten Forward Thursday 8/17 draft review, Conference Room at 2 Infinite Loop, Cupertino Wednesday 9/20 full meeting, TBA Thursday 9/21 draft review Wednesday 10/18 full meeting, TBA Thursday 10/19 draft review Wednesday 11/15 full meeting, Eric Postpischil at Apple in Ten Forward Thursday 11/16 draft review, Conference Room at 2 Infinite Loop, Cupertino Wednesday 12/20 full meeting, TBA Thursday 12/21 draft review Any volunteers for the permanent position of 754 secretary? Dick Delp Prof Kahan wishes to speak to defaults & their effect on debugging issues. http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/wkahan/ Wants double extended or quad available for debugging & reducing the probability of round off error induced bugs into the noise. This & humane exception handling must be mandatory. And redirecting rounding direction. Jeff's group will present the result of the rules committee. You can find their revised version at either of: http://754r.ucbtest.org/pnp-0.8.html http://nonabelian.com/754/PnP_0_8.htm This is our draft of the rules given to us by the MSC as approved for IEEE committees & working groups that report to the MSC. Largely the removal of entity & meta-comments together with some small modifications. Some questions came up in 4.1 about the signing of a Copyright Assignment Form "prior to active participation and/or voting in any working group meeting." Prof Kahan suggested replacing Assignment with Release & go on. In 6, "All officers shall be..." changed to "The chair shall be...". After MUCH discussion we changed an 'after' to 'upon'. Our PAR (754Revision) expires December 2006. Bob Davis will explain what we need to finish by then. Must be available for the October MSC meeting & need to ask for a sponsor ballot by the July MSC. -----