Notes for meeting at Sun in Menlo Park on Wednesday 5/11/05 in the Capitola Beach Room in Building 16. David Hough hosted us. Alex Liu, Peter Markstein, Jim Thomas, & Dan Zuras attended. Jeff Kidder, Mark Erle, Mike Cowlishaw, & Leonard Tsai were on the phone. During the draft review we changed forced & inferred to explicit & implicit. In the section defining variable widths formats, we had the usual problem with emax & p. We considered eliminating them but that would have the side effect of eliminating things like overflow & underflow from being things that 'the standard' can signal & force them to be things that are handled when some system limit is reached. Dave said he'd work on it & get back to us. Pee break. We had some discussion of Jeff's interchange format for variable precision binary numbers, C99's interchange format for the same thing in hex digits, & the obvious ASCII format for the decimal case. Perhaps we should have a compact format for both (Jeff's for binary & something else for decimal) or perhaps a printable format is sufficient (C99 for binary & ASCII for decimal). We will either have to pick one or the other or admit once & for all that these things are never to be interchanged. After the review, Dave asked about conformance levels. Call that guy who is doing the cell phone software. We went through the agenda for tomorrow & finished up.