Notes for meeting at Sun in 17 Network Circle in Menlo Park at 1:00 on Tuesday 11/18/04. David Hough hosted us in the ??? Beach Room in building 17. Alex Liu, Mike Cowlishaw, Jim Thomas, Joe Darcy, Ivan Goddard & Dan Zuras attended. Eric Schwartz, Leonard Tsai, & Jeff Kidder were on the phone. Annex D went into the standard with little discussion. Jim raised the issue of splitting the standard into the 1985 text + quad, min/max, & FMA & an Annex D for decimal. Jim wants to raise this as an agenda item in the December meeting. Find out with IEEE if we can have two votes. The letter is to be shipped. We finished the agenda & went on to BigDecimal, the topic that got us stuck yesterday. (Joe is in the room now.) Ivan had a new topic after the 3:00 break. It was general background information about the Open Multi-Processing (OMP) standard for supporting MP annotations for Fortran. He thinks we should distinguish the highest precision available from the rest & relax the rules along these line: it should not support: modes, traps, gradual underflow, operations need not correctly round & reassociation should be permitted. Most of it exists today & is outside the standard. We are trying to bring some of it into the standard. Jeff characterized the problem as licensing expressions to be evaluated in another way so long as it is more precise than the operands. We spent a good deal of time discussing various expressions & problems with their evaluation. Jeff wanted to look Annex L. Ivan is here so this is a good thing. Dave mentioned his "no action at a distance" notion. We ended about 5:00.